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It just keeps getting better. Real nice additions of supporting info on the legend of Champy and on Leahy's move to get it declared a Great Lake. --Dave 21:57, 24 Nov 2006 (EST)
It looks very good. Nice job.
--Dave 20:17, 23 Nov 2006 (EST)
Thanks Dave. I'm not sure what you mean about the graphic. I don't think I've changed it in a while, does it look different when you switch broswers? A fatal wiki flaw- no control over page width. 65.42.243.209 18:26, 12 Nov 2006 (EST)
I moved the graphic lower so the two maps aren't in the same section anymore. It adds some dead space to the page in the facts and figures section but it might prevent extreme changes in the look of the page.65.42.243.209 18:31, 12 Nov 2006 (EST) (Sarah)
Nice. That long graphic still giving you a bit of a problem. I like the earlier version better.
Nice lede, perhaps needs a direct reference somewhere in here about political attempt to become a great lake.
--Dave 15:30, 12 Nov 2006 (EST)
Hmmm...I see champy is higher, but how about putting him in the lede? Grab those readers by the eye-balls and compel them to read. Surprise them and make them want to learn more. Maybe starting something like, "What's not to like about an inland lake with it's own sea monster?" Or maybe "Must be the Loch Ness monster has a better press agent. For while many people are aware of that Scottish beast, not so many realize that North America has a similar legend within the Great Lakes basin. For years people have reported sightings of "champy" on Lake Champlain, a lake that is xxxx long and yyy deep."
Except the above examples are pretty hokey. You would do much better. --Dave 14:32, 10 Nov 2006 (EST)Dave
Great picture to open the page. And lengthy vertical graphic is a real grabber. Some people may think that it would be better to make this smaller and clickable, but I like how it parallels text. You've mostly solved the issue of the two graphics crammed against each other. Purists would complain about the text "trapped" between the graphics, but I think you're fine here.
I can't link to the champy video - I get an ABC news site. If you have to do something once you get to the site, you might include those directions. Glad to see that we're no longer linking numbers but using words instead. Your last external link has a misspelling.
Supporters of Lake Champlain, led by Vt. Sen. Patrick Leahy, tried to get it designated as a Great Lakes. This was hugely controversial and a dispute relevant to this site.
Glad we're not quoting legislative goo buried in official Acts or the Fish and Wildlife Service's Law Digest.
Use champy. He's a hook. Use it to grab your reader right from the get go. Think more like a story, less like an encyclopedia. Or you could hook with the ill-fated attempt to "grow-up" into a Great Lake.
That said, this site is well written, has compelling art, excellent organization. Good on ya! Dave
My beautiful new photo was contributed by someone I contacted on Flickr. He was the first person I contacted and got back to me within 10 minutes. He said I could use his pic as long as I credited him. this may be a good way to get people involved in the project and provide a treasure trove of searchable pics Boron11 21:42, 23 Oct 2006 (EDT)
I moved the pics around some and pushed the "interesting" content to the top. I think I'll leave the TOC out for now.Boron11 21:57, 8 Nov 2006 (EST)
